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What Michael Green (Simplify) is saying

Chief Strategist & PM, Simplify

39 dated public stances tracked since 2022-06-21, most recently 2026-07-28. Each line carries the date and the venue it came from; quotation marks mean verbatim. Methodology.

The stances below are c8alpha's editorial distillation of Michael Green (Simplify)'s public commentary — television, podcasts, and interviews — compiled by automated transcript analysis and dated to the episode they came from. They may lag the speaker's current view and may contain extraction errors. Text in quotation marks is verbatim from the episode; everything else is our paraphrase. Michael Green (Simplify) is not affiliated with c8alpha and has not endorsed this page. Nothing here is investment advice.

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39
tracked stances
23
themes
6
side flips
2026-07-28
last heard
Returns  90d -2.0% (n=27) · 180d -7.9% (n=15) · 1y -1.1% (n=7)

Raw direction-aware returns on public statements — long calls credited when the price rose, shorts when it fell, shorts capped at −100% — in a rising market this mostly measures who was long, not who has skill. Returns run from the stance date; calls are rarely closed publicly, so fixed 90-day / 180-day / 1-year horizons are used. A horizon shows only once it has fully matured, and only at 5+ scored stances.

View flips

Where the tracked view on a theme reversed between appearances — bullish to bearish or back. Dates are the episodes on each side of the turn.

GOOGL — bullish2026-01-29 → bearish2026-07-08
USTS — bullish2026-05-27 → bearish2026-06-11
SPX — bullish2026-05-14 → bearish2026-05-27
SPX — bearish2026-05-07 → bullish2026-05-14
SPX — bullish2025-01-24 → bearish2025-07-23
SPX — bearish2024-08-02 → bullish2025-01-24

Most-argued themes

ThemeStancesLeanMixLast
SPX82 bullish / 6 bearish2026-05-27
USTS43 bullish / 1 bearish2026-06-11
CDX22 bullish2026-03-10
GOOGL21 bullish / 1 bearish2026-07-08
High Yield22 bullish2026-07-28
Long Dur Treasuries22 bullish2024-08-02

Tracked stances

bullish / bearish is a view they argued; owns / short is a position they said they hold.

2026-07-28 SMALL CAP VALUE bearish Michael Green · video
Despite being labeled cheap relative value, small cap value is among the most richly valued markets once adjusted for high indebtedness and unprofitability, and passive flows have eliminated the fundamental-driven mean reversion that historically justified…
“small cap value while many people will try to highlight it as a relative value is among the most richly valued markets”
Michael Green: Why Markets Are More Fragile Than Anyone Wants to Admit
2026-07-28 High Yield bullish Michael Green · video
Fixed income has a self-correcting mechanism through endogenous coupon cash flows that prevents passive-driven disconnection from fundamentals, unlike equities where future returns depend entirely on finding a willing buyer at any price
“I prefer to focus in areas in which I can articulate the endogenous cash flows”
Michael Green: Why Markets Are More Fragile Than Anyone Wants to Admit
2026-07-28 LARGE CAP EQUITIES / MEGA CAP MOMENTUM bullish Michael Green · video
Passive index funds must overweight the largest companies first to minimize tracking error, creating persistent and self-reinforcing flow-driven tailwinds that make momentum investing structurally advantaged in the current regime
“the easiest way to do that is simply buy the largest companies. They are the ones that are most impacted by these flows”
Michael Green: Why Markets Are More Fragile Than Anyone Wants to Admit
2026-07-08 Investment Grade Credit bearish CNBC International · video
Credit on AI hyperscalers is underwritten against market capitalisation rather than true fundamentals; if equity prices correct, these companies cannot refinance on the same terms, making current tight spreads structurally mispriced.
“the underpinnings on much of this credit is basically against market capitalization”
AI fundamentals have become detached from their stock prices: Michael Green
2026-07-08 SOX bearish CNBC International · video
Leveraged ETFs like SOXL (3× semiconductor) mechanically amplify chip-stock volatility through forced daily rebalancing — when prices fall, billions in de-leveraging must be sold, which is currently the primary driver of the chip-stock selloff rather than…
“chip stocks in particular right now are being hit largely from the growth of levered vehicles”
AI fundamentals have become detached from their stock prices: Michael Green
2026-07-08 GOOGL bearish CNBC International · video
Over half of Google's most recent earnings were simply the mark-up of its Anthropic stake on secondary markets, making it absurd to apply a stock price multiple to those gains as if they were operating earnings.
“To put a multiple on that is absolutely totally absurd”
AI fundamentals have become detached from their stock prices: Michael Green
2026-07-08 NVDA bearish CNBC International · video
Nvidia's apparent chip scarcity and pricing power is an artifact of circular financing guarantees — not organic demand — and is being increasingly challenged by Chinese models engineering around top-tier chips and institutions migrating to lower-cost AI…
“Chinese models are increasingly engineering around the use of Nvidia's top-tier chips”
AI fundamentals have become detached from their stock prices: Michael Green
2026-06-11 USTS bearish Wealthion · video
Hedge funds are exploiting a ~10–20bps mispricing between Treasury futures and off-the-run issues at 50:1 leverage, creating systemic fragility in the US Treasury market that is not risk-free and exposes the bond market to disruption whenever credit financing…
“That's not risk-free to the system. It's an extraordinary amount of leverage sitting out there”
Michael Green: The Bond Market Is Hiding A Banking Crisis
2026-06-11 BANKS bearish Wealthion · video
Banks loaded up on long-duration Treasuries and mortgages at par that now trade at 55–75 cents, parked in HTM to avoid recognizing losses that would breach Basel capital rules, effectively freezing their capital and forcing them to lend only to the most…
“banks will do almost anything to avoid doing that”
Michael Green: The Bond Market Is Hiding A Banking Crisis
2026-05-27 SPX bearish Wealthion · video
Passive investing mechanics have inflated equity valuations to the point where forward expected returns are below 2%, making equities deeply unattractive relative to 5% Treasuries, and the system is approaching an 'endgame' as passive share nears 60%
“people are scrambling to buy a 2% expected return asset and foregoing a 5% return far less volatile asset”
90d -2.3%
Broken Market Signals Are Warning of the “End Game”
2026-05-27 USTS bullish Wealthion · video
Real yields approaching 3% on 30-year TIPS offer an extraordinary risk-adjusted opportunity to lock in inflation-protected income for retirement, especially as the inflation risk narrative is overstated relative to actual data
“real yields approaching 3% on the 30-year TIPS offer you just an extraordinary opportunity”
90d +0.2%
Broken Market Signals Are Warning of the “End Game”
2026-05-27 Commodities Broad bearish Wealthion · video
Falling global population growth (peak around 2035), continued agricultural productivity gains, and emerging protein substitution technologies point to structural surplus and declining relevance of food commodities in consumer spending baskets
“I find it really hard to get super excited about commodities”
90d -3.2%
Broken Market Signals Are Warning of the “End Game”
2026-05-27 ENERGY bullish Wealthion · video
Surging demand from data centers and AI infrastructure will drive sustained energy consumption growth, and nuclear will ultimately emerge as a primary beneficiary of machine energy demand
“energy infrastructure and in particular I'd highlight areas like nuclear which will ultimately emerge from this”
90d +9.7%
Broken Market Signals Are Warning of the “End Game”
2026-05-17 USTS bullish Michael Green · video
At a 5% nominal yield, 30-year Treasuries allow retirees to live entirely off coupon income without touching principal — a neglected option because passive-flow-driven equity euphoria has crowded everyone out of fixed income
“the 30-year bond yields around 5%... you could accomplish exactly your stated objective and never touch your principal”
90d +0.3%
The Giant Mindless Robot Driving Stocks Is Starting to Falter | Mike Green
2026-05-17 TIPS bullish Michael Green · video
Passive flows have crowded capital into equities while neglecting TIPS, which now offer a 2.7% real yield for 30 years — nearly half the S&P's historical ~5% real return but with a government guarantee vs. the looming passive-flow reversal risk
“long-dated TIPS, for example, offering now a 2.7% sort of return for 30 years. I people don't understand how incredible that is”
The Giant Mindless Robot Driving Stocks Is Starting to Falter | Mike Green
2026-05-14 SPX bullish Macro Voices · video
Mechanical 401k and passive fund inflows continue regardless of macro news, creating a persistent bid that keeps equities elevated until unemployment rises enough to reduce contribution flows
“the mindless bid coming from the passive robot where money is flowing into 401ks on a continuous basis”
90d +3.5%
MacroVoices #532 Mike Green: Record Mechanical Flows
2026-05-14 High Yield bullish Macro Voices · video
At elevated asset prices investors should rotate into income-generating instruments like hedged high yield that offer protection against credit spread widening, which is increasingly likely as passive bifurcation creates pockets of credit deterioration
“they should be taking advantage of these high prices to rotate into areas in which income can be generated”
90d +1.2%
MacroVoices #532 Mike Green: Record Mechanical Flows
2026-05-07 NVDA bearish Julia La Roche Show · video
Nvidia's margin expansion from ~40% to ~75% gross margins has been artificially sustained by vendor financing that lets customers avoid price negotiation, mirroring Cisco's 1999 dynamic, making earnings quality poor and the stock overvalued
“Nvidia has benefited from the inability of their customers to negotiate on price because they're receiving financing from Nvidia”
90d -3.8%
Mike Green: Why A 1987-Style Crash Is Now Almost Inevitable — Here's the Math
2026-05-07 SPX bearish Julia La Roche Show · video
Traditional DCF analysis shows ~75% of current market value rests in terminal value assumptions rather than actual cash flows, implying the S&P 500 is overvalued by more than 75% with fair value below 2,000
“the market is overvalued by more than 75%... an S&P somewhere below 2,000”
90d -5.5%
Mike Green: Why A 1987-Style Crash Is Now Almost Inevitable — Here's the Math
2026-05-07 VOL bearish Julia La Roche Show · video
XIV and SVXY had come to dominate over 70% of daily VIX futures volume, creating a single-underlier concentration that made a discontinuous crash mathematically near-certain, validated by Volmageddon outcome
“we took about a quarter-billion-dollar position in put options on SVXY and predicted that this event was going to happen”
90d +26.4%
Mike Green: Why A 1987-Style Crash Is Now Almost Inevitable — Here's the Math
2026-05-07 HOUSING bearish Julia La Roche Show · video
Boomers are beginning to be forced sellers (assisted living, mortality) while younger buyers are priced out and over-leveraged, setting up a Japan/China-style long-term price decline as demographic asset hoarding reverses
“I actually just bought a property off of a boomer who unexpectedly had to go into assisted living and I bought it for 40% below the list”
90d -8.2%
Mike Green: Why A 1987-Style Crash Is Now Almost Inevitable — Here's the Math
2026-03-10 USTS bullish Michael Green · video
Passive index mechanics create a structural ~40% underweight in longer-duration bonds as falling prices reduce their index weight and therefore their share of new inflows, producing neglect and an opportunity to earn nearly 5% on 30-year Treasuries at…
“people are ignoring the opportunities that they currently have to generate nearly 5% returns on US 30-year Treasuries”
90d -2.1% · 180d -2.5%
Is Passive Investing Distorting the Market? | Interview with Mike Green From Simplify
2026-03-10 CDX bullish Michael Green · video
High yield credit spreads are too tight relative to emerging economic risks, but CDX uses credit default swap overlays to hedge spread widening while still delivering ~8% monthly income, offering a risk-protected way to capture high yield carry.
“we're trying to offer people that nice coupon in a much more protected form”
90d -1.9% · 180d -2.3%
Is Passive Investing Distorting the Market? | Interview with Mike Green From Simplify
2026-01-29 GOOGL bullish Michael Green · video
Ad-supported AI will displace paid-subscription models like ChatGPT Pro, entrenching Google's dominance as it replaces traditional search — the vast majority of consumers will never pay $200/month for AI
“you're just going to see ad supported AI it's really going to replace the traditional search businesses”
90d +3.5% · 180d -1.2%
US Has Under-Invested in Required AI Infrastructure, Says Michael Green
2026-01-29 SPX bearish Michael Green · video
Passive investing penetration (~54% in US equities) creates self-catalyzing systemic instability — at ~80-85% passive the math guarantees an XIV-style zero event — making longer-dated S&P 500 puts newly viable as the regime enters the tradeable window
“longer-dated puts on the S&P 500 might become attractive in this context”
90d +2.8% · 180d +7.3%
Michael Green on the Extreme Risk Facing the S&P 500 | In the Money with Amber Kanwar
2026-01-29 CDX bullish Michael Green · video
High yield provides 25-30% annual endogenous cash flow (coupons + maturities) that is independent of passive-driven secondary buyers, and the equity-like credit-spread sensitivity allows a built-in cheap hedge against drawdowns — insulating returns from the…
“as a high yield investor, you typically receive between 25 and 30% of your fund in any given year paid back to you in the form of cash”
90d -2.4% · 180d -4.1%
Michael Green on the Extreme Risk Facing the S&P 500 | In the Money with Amber Kanwar
2026-01-29 GOLD bullish Michael Green · video
China is redirecting trade surpluses away from US Treasuries into gold following Russian reserves confiscation, joining Western retail investors chasing dollar-debasement narratives — surging inflows into a fixed-supply inelastic market forces prices higher…
“if China is redirecting trade surpluses into gold...that's going to have a huge impact on gold”
90d -15.8% · 180d -25.5%
Michael Green on the Extreme Risk Facing the S&P 500 | In the Money with Amber Kanwar
2026-01-29 YGLD bullish Michael Green · video
Selling call options on gold monetizes the elevated implied volatility premium inflated by retail demand for levered gold exposure, generating income that cushions any drawdown while participating in the secular gold bull driven by structural flows
“YGLD is gold yield that's generated by selling call options on gold itself”
90d -30.7% · 180d -42.2%
Michael Green on the Extreme Risk Facing the S&P 500 | In the Money with Amber Kanwar
2026-01-29 HART owns Michael Green · video
A managed futures strategy force-biased long hard commodities (not soft/food), using trend-following plus carry and cycle-fundamental filters to systematically express the electricity and infrastructure commodity secular shortage thesis without relying on…
“we have effectively forced the system to be long commodities”
Michael Green on the Extreme Risk Facing the S&P 500 | In the Money with Amber Kanwar
2026-01-19 SPX bearish Michael Green · video
Passive investing has created near-perfectly inelastic demand for large caps via flow-driven multiplier effects disconnected from fundamentals; a white paper with Hari Krishnan models an inevitable endogenous volatility buildup that will cause a catastrophic…
“within four to five years will hit levels in which it is inevitable that the markets will inevitably crash”
90d -4.9% · 180d -10.1%
1-19-26 The Metric that Matters - The Michael Green Interview
2025-07-23 TIPS bullish Wealthion · video
30-year TIPS currently yield ~2.6% real—equivalent to the full nominal rate available throughout the entire 2010s—making them a generational return in a high-quality instrument that mathematically converges to par, while passive bond indices structurally…
“you're picking up a real rate that is equivalent to the nominal rate that was available over the past decade”
Michael Green: The Hidden Ponzi Bubble, Markets Partying Like ’99, & Where To Invest Now
2025-07-23 SPX bearish Wealthion · video
Passive inflows have created Ponzi-like valuation dynamics (index at 3× sales, leaders at 5–15× sales) where the exit price depends entirely on what the next passive buyer pays, not on underlying cash flows, making expected real returns near zero and a…
“if you own shares in the S&P 500 ETF, you own a speculative ticket towards prices going higher”
90d -6.1% · 180d -7.5% · 1y -17.7%
Michael Green: The Hidden Ponzi Bubble, Markets Partying Like ’99, & Where To Invest Now
2025-01-24 SPX bullish Wealthion · video
Mandatory 401k auto-enrollment defaults new workers into passive Target Date Funds that mechanically buy the largest stocks regardless of valuation, creating momentum-reinforcing inflows that push prices higher until retirement withdrawals structurally exceed…
“as long as people are contributing to the system on net it goes higher — it's just built into the system”
90d -9.8% · 180d +4.9% · 1y +15.3%
Passive Investing Poses Systemic Economic & Market Risks | Michael Green
2025-01-24 China Equities bearish Wealthion · video
Despite appearing fundamentally cheap, Chinese equities carry a high risk of becoming investment-stranded assets — as Russian assets did — if geopolitical tensions cause the US to exclude them from global capital markets
“places like China appear very very cheap on a fundamental basis but they run a very high risk of exactly what we saw in Russia”
Passive Investing Poses Systemic Economic & Market Risks | Michael Green
2025-01-24 BITCOIN bearish Wealthion · video
A fixed-supply asset in a growing-population world concentrates wealth away from new entrants and, critically, eliminates the monetary flexibility governments need to respond to crises like invasions or pandemics, making it unworkable as a functional currency…
“it is a system that is fantastic for number go up but completely impossible as a workable system for currency”
90d +10.4% · 180d -13.3% · 1y +15.0%
Passive Investing Poses Systemic Economic & Market Risks | Michael Green
2024-08-02 SPX bearish Forward Guidance · video
Passive inflows that artificially propped markets are turning negative as unemployment rises from years of manipulated labor market data, leaving no natural buyer at current valuations once flows reverse
“we just don't know who the natural buyer at anywhere near these valuations is”
90d -7.0% · 180d -13.7% · 1y -19.9%
U.S. Economy "Almost Certainly" Already In Recession, Argues Veteran Portfolio Manager Mike Green
2024-08-02 Long Dur Treasuries bullish Forward Guidance · video
Growth scare and imminent recession trigger the portfolio rebalancing channel — bond rallies force fixed-allocation funds to sell equities and buy bonds, reinforcing the rally as the Fed shifts from fighting inflation to supporting growth
“today is exactly why you want to buy a bond”
90d -5.3% · 180d -8.9% · 1y -6.5%
U.S. Economy "Almost Certainly" Already In Recession, Argues Veteran Portfolio Manager Mike Green
2024-08-02 RUSSELL 2000 bearish Forward Guidance · video
The recent small-cap outperformance was a false dawn caused by hedge funds unwinding long-Mag7/short-Russell pairs, not genuine economic broadening, with meaningful further unwind still to come as that crowded trade unwinds
“this is a completely false Dawn because what you're actually watching is portfolios being Unwound due to a change in Risk characteristics”
U.S. Economy "Almost Certainly" Already In Recession, Argues Veteran Portfolio Manager Mike Green
2022-06-21 Long Dur Treasuries bullish Chris Cole · video
The US economy cannot sustain rates above roughly 3% given collapsing household formation, demographic stagnation, and the italianization of the labor force, so the bond market has correctly priced in terminal rate and bonds are near a floor
“I don't think the US economy can handle higher than that”
90d -2.0% · 180d -2.9% · 1y -3.3%
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